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Post by 4l04ever on Jan 16, 2018 11:36:46 GMT 1
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Post by JonW on Jan 16, 2018 12:14:17 GMT 1
I fitted something very similar to my garages when I lived in the UK. I thought they seemed a good idea as very discrete and functional.
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Post by rigga on Jan 16, 2018 12:40:28 GMT 1
I purchased 4 of those for my two up and over doors, but never fitted them as you have to mount them to the doors, and its then pretty obvious where the scrotes need to stick their cutter's /grinder to beat them, I preferred the subtle approach. Up and over doors are fairly flexible due to their size, the bigger they get, even more so, if you push against them you can see how much they move, as most have a single latching point in the center at the top, or two located down at the lower corners, some like mine have two extra latching points at the top also, but these are set inwards towards the center of the door, when you'd like them at the corners to limit movement, still far better than the two on their own though. What I did was simply get some six inch Coach bolts, and drilled through the double edged skin at the bottomm of the door into the concrete base at set intervals, 4 on each door, and with my set up there is a frame that the door rollers run in when opening the door, just where the roller sits when shut, there is a hole (or drill one) and attach a long hasp padlock, door is now solid when pushed from the outside, and no visible signs of how its locked, and it has in effect 10 point locking on each door, add a camera and baby monitor if powered and pretty much job jobbed.
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Post by 4l04ever on Jan 16, 2018 13:10:18 GMT 1
You could fit white covers on the holes instead of silver.....would be more stealth then
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Post by rigga on Jan 16, 2018 13:57:54 GMT 1
You could, but its still there, also if you have a weather strip fitted, basicly a strip of wood on the inside Of the garage door to prevent leaves being blown in, add a strip of rubber screwed to the top, so it also sits on top of the door bottom, this prevents the scrotes latest wheeze of using a borescope /inspection camera to look under the door to see whats inside, I'm lucky that the entrance to where my garage is has locked steel gates on all access points, but still limit the possibility as much as possible, if you make it hard for them, there are plenty of other easier targets that they will persue instead.
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Post by dono on Jan 16, 2018 20:11:25 GMT 1
I have them fitted to my Garage door, the shoot bolts roll out a real long way and are really secure. They stop the usual peeling up of a corner which is easily done. Of course anything you fit can be bested by thieves but they would have to make an awful lot of noise doing so..money well spent in my view. I would fit them again to any new garage I end up with!
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Post by JonW on Jan 16, 2018 23:02:57 GMT 1
Mine must have been a slightly different set and were fitted to the frame and not the actual door itself so there was no tell tale bolts. They were fitted on a set of dark stained wooden doors and I only drilled enough of a hole to get the key in and didnt use the plates in the kit, this meant from even a few paces away you couldnt really see the key holes.
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Post by JonW on Jan 16, 2018 23:05:37 GMT 1
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Post by Norbo on Jan 16, 2018 23:26:28 GMT 1
I was thinking about then bars that you put out side to stop the door opening as well they seen good .
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Post by ypvs400 on Jan 17, 2018 9:25:08 GMT 1
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Post by Dave B on Jan 17, 2018 9:36:17 GMT 1
I just put G cramps on the top runners to secure the top of the door. Steel bolts into the floor secure the bottom. Neither of these show from the outside.
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Post by 4l04ever on Jan 17, 2018 10:18:14 GMT 1
I need to secure the door, but do not have access from inside, so needs to be things that can be locked from outside.
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Post by markhoopy on Jan 17, 2018 13:08:20 GMT 1
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Post by LC_BOTT on Jan 17, 2018 14:41:01 GMT 1
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Post by earthman on Jan 17, 2018 16:31:06 GMT 1
I have seen a garage door clear one of those, the thieves just bashed the door in the middle, enough to push it in/raise it up basically. The biggest problem is those doors, they need additional plating/bracing.
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Post by ypvs400 on Jan 17, 2018 18:17:39 GMT 1
All you can do is make it as difficult as possible for someone to take your pride and joy, ultimatley every device can be got round if the thief is determined enough.
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Post by LC_BOTT on Jan 18, 2018 7:47:20 GMT 1
With the ammount and quality of battery tools now available, you could take a roof off, wall down etc, quite easily I would imagine. Probably not in a brick building though.
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Post by ypvs400 on Jan 18, 2018 8:15:24 GMT 1
With the ammount and quality of battery tools now available, you could take a roof off, wall down etc, quite easily I would imagine. Probably not in a brick building though. 99% of locks are easy to by pass , my time in the motor industry taught me that as I had to gain entry to numerous vehicles when customers had locked keys in cars. I own a full set of lock out equipment and most household locks can opened taking only slightly more time than it would take with a key.
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Post by cooper on Jan 19, 2018 10:41:12 GMT 1
I fitted same locks on my 2nd garage ..they work well and don't stand out ..keys a bit long but im happy with them so far..
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Post by rd350rob on Jan 29, 2018 16:48:27 GMT 1
Got a 12st Rottweiler living in my garage. He's in there all night, and he's only fed in the morning. SO come night-time, he's starving for a bit of scumbag flesh.......
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Post by iwantalc on Jan 29, 2018 21:10:19 GMT 1
Got a 12st Rottweiler living in my garage. He's in there all night, and he's only fed in the morning. SO come night-time, he's starving for a bit of scumbag flesh....... ive got the same ,but she does moan about only being aloud in the house to cook and clean ..
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Post by steve h on Jan 29, 2018 21:23:39 GMT 1
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Post by earthman on Mar 24, 2020 22:48:01 GMT 1
Just watched this, maybe of interest to others.
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Post by JonW on Mar 25, 2020 0:14:15 GMT 1
Im torn. As usual if someone who steals for a living wants something its going to be hard to stop them but I do favour the physical to something like a camera, but if they have a car with a towbar they can yank on that bar I reckon and will pull that system out in one go, mangled but gone. Noisy, I grant you, but gangs (with weapons) care less about that if they can make a noise and just want to leave quickly tho will fight you if they have to. It'd also not really stand up to a battery grinder. All that said, its certainly better than nothing and would deter the causal thief, but so would parking your modern imobilised car against the door.
Has to be wondered tho going forward, why would a tea leaf steal a bike in the current world, its not like they can ride it about much with the lockdowns and no chance of them selling it, unless its spares on ebay? With less n less people out n about the phone thieves on mopeds must be mostly out of work now?
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Post by donkeychomp on Mar 25, 2020 23:48:08 GMT 1
Years ago a mate did this.
Sick and tired of garage thefts he put thick plastic curtains up just behind the garage door and then installed paint mines. I kid you not. Pink ones. A few days later and at about 3am...BANG...and a lot of pink footprints coming from his garage. Did the cops get the crim? Well yes...didn't take long as they just strolled behind the paint. Turned out to be a neighbour 8 doors down...
Totally illegal now and borderline back then but the bloke went to jail for it as his dabs were all over stolen property from his other neighbours.
Alex
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Post by JonW on Mar 26, 2020 0:09:34 GMT 1
I still favour sitting in there at night with me sawn off, Tony Martin style... Sign on the door 'I shoot intruders, enter at own risk'.
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Post by raven13 on Mar 26, 2020 1:36:38 GMT 1
With the ammount and quality of battery tools now available, you could take a roof off, wall down etc, quite easily I would imagine. Probably not in a brick building though. funny you should say that, we recently did a repair on a bike for a girl whose speed triple was lifted out of the roof of the garage. her van had been parked up to the doors to block them, so they just climbed up the van onto the roof. got the bike down the same way. the van was a proper mess where the bike had been dragged over the roof ect police recovered the bike a few weeks after it had been stolen, should probly have been written off but she was paying cash so we repaired it.
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Post by JonW on Mar 26, 2020 3:31:15 GMT 1
wow thats some story. tat would be gutting to lose the van and the bike like that.
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Post by earthman on Mar 26, 2020 8:59:56 GMT 1
I still favour sitting in there at night with me sawn off, Tony Martin style... Sign on the door 'I shoot intruders, enter at own risk'. Maybe being able to use a lethal firearm is a bit extreme but I totally agree with you, paint bombs and mild electrocution should be totally allowed. Like a power/sub station, if you ignore the signs and go to some effort to break in, how can the owner(s) then be blamed?
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Post by JonW on Mar 26, 2020 9:05:59 GMT 1
Well a slap on the wrist and some community service doesnt stop them and youre still a bike down or trashed and have to fight with the insurance... if its insured. how is that fair? There needs to be a more more 're-education' in the mix to stop them just going out and ruining someone elses day.
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