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Post by masonmart on Mar 22, 2024 10:26:40 GMT 1
I have no modern road bikes now and will only be using my old bikes 2 of which will be YPVS 350 F1's from now on. I have only used 4Ts now and missed out on the UK fast 2T era. I'm 73 but getting fit again; what would my Yams be like to live with as road bikes which wouldn't be ridden hard normally but which may include some rides of 250 miles
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Post by Robbieben on Mar 22, 2024 10:54:29 GMT 1
I have no modern road bikes now and will only be using my old bikes 2 of which will be YPVS 350 F1's from now on. I have only used 4Ts now and missed out on the UK fast 2T era. I'm 73 but getting fit again; what would my Yams be like to live with as road bikes which wouldn't be ridden hard normally but which may include some rides of 250 miles They're a great bike if looked after, which I'm sure you will. My 1983 31K covered 33,000 miles in just shy of 3 years with 2 trips to Spa and Le Mans with my mates, never missed a beat, the lad who bought it off me had it another 5 years and the bike had only ever had a set of rings.
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Post by headcoats on Mar 22, 2024 11:40:39 GMT 1
The lightness of these bikes is an advantage as we get older
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Post by reedx on Mar 22, 2024 11:52:24 GMT 1
I think we're all getting to the age where we should just ride whatever we enjoy. Like's to short to stress about the details!
Colin
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Post by masonmart on Mar 22, 2024 12:21:01 GMT 1
I'm not worried about the maintenance side as it should be low especially with modern oil but more about using a bike with a narrow useable power band and having to work hard to stay there. Or does the YPVS give decent low to mid-range too? It's not a matter of just ride whatever we enjoy as life's to short to stress about the details neither. I have a small stable of bikes and I know the capabilities of all of them and I don't know those of the YPVS and bikes are all in the details. I have a Bonnie with a 5-speed box and at normal low speeds you can lazily short shift and it will do 70mpg if you are kind. How much gas does the YPVS use? Modern 4Ts with FI are running beautifully in minutes but how about old 2T's with chokes? If setting off on a good ride do you need to take any spares like plugs. Of course I'll know fairly soon but I'm interested in being prepared.
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Post by beardy on Mar 22, 2024 12:49:03 GMT 1
I had a go on a PV a couple of years ago. Definitely a broader spread of power and easy to ride compared to the LC imo. In fact it reminded me of my CBF600. Now there’s a compliment 😊
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Post by masonmart on Mar 22, 2024 13:13:06 GMT 1
I had a go on a PV a couple of years ago. Definitely a broader spread of power and easy to ride compared to the LC imo. In fact it reminded me of my CBF600. Now there’s a compliment 😊 Indeed, if so it will be superb for me.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 22, 2024 13:32:17 GMT 1
A ypvs is perfectly rideable
4-6k revs will have you bumbling along nicely
Below that is smooth and fine around town
Steve
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 22, 2024 13:36:34 GMT 1
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Post by Robbieben on Mar 22, 2024 14:23:17 GMT 1
I'm not worried about the maintenance side as it should be low especially with modern oil but more about using a bike with a narrow useable power band and having to work hard to stay there. Or does the YPVS give decent low to mid-range too? It's not a matter of just ride whatever we enjoy as life's to short to stress about the details neither. I have a small stable of bikes and I know the capabilities of all of them and I don't know those of the YPVS and bikes are all in the details. I have a Bonnie with a 5-speed box and at normal low speeds you can lazily short shift and it will do 70mpg if you are kind. How much gas does the YPVS use? Modern 4Ts with FI are running beautifully in minutes but how about old 2T's with chokes? If setting off on a good ride do you need to take any spares like plugs. Of course I'll know fairly soon but I'm interested in being prepared. The YPVS is a great usable bike, day to day or even touring, a decent spread of power means you're not constantly changing gears, it will happily pull from low revs in any gear if set up well. Fuel economy will be dependant on how you ride it but it won't be brilliant as 2 strokes aren't but if ridden conservatively you could see mid 40's mpg. I used to travel Durham to Exeter on leave back in the day and cruising I'd average around 150-160 miles between fill ups, I could also easily get it to less than 100 miles when having a more spirited ride. On my 2 strokes I always carry a spark plug or two, they don't fail often but if you have one it helps at times. 2 strokes aren't quite as kind to plugs as 4 strokes. Use a non resistor plug which IMHO seem to fare far better than plugs that have a resistor.
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Post by masonmart on Mar 22, 2024 14:43:57 GMT 1
Steve I love it, the F1 and F2 are just superb for me and this one looks top class. I believe that it won't go for much more than the current price too. I have to spend a short while finishing my naked F1 and I have Matt's F1 to use, I'll sell the naked F1and I'm then going to look for a project of some kind but what this is I'm not 100% sure yet.
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Post by abar121 on Mar 22, 2024 14:53:58 GMT 1
The 350 YPVS models stock are super flexible, much more so than the 250 strokers of the day or even later.
The capacity and power valve give them plenty of pull low down (within reason!), also they are quite smooth as they fire as often as a 4 cylinder diesel.
Comfy, decent two up and a centre stand too.
As above, the light weight gets more and more useful as we get older. My father has just about given up riding larger bikes now, just borrowing my strokers as he pleases.
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Post by geoffers997 on Mar 22, 2024 15:36:04 GMT 1
I’d agree with all of the above and say this in addition:
On average I ride my 31K a bit slower and with a bit less of a Banzai attitude these days.
Don’t get me wrong it still gets its neck wrung, just not as often as when I was 19.
Just do what feels right, they’re great bikes.
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Post by steve63 on Mar 22, 2024 16:00:32 GMT 1
I posted this before. I used my ex proddy 31k to go to Spain with camping gear and my then girlfriend. The other two guys we went with were riding a GPZ1100 and a Z1000ST. Mine was the only one with no issue at all and doing around 45mpg at 80/85 it had the biggest tank range. Having to buy 2T oil was the only downside but it probably did 500 to a pint so at 2000miles probably only used two tank fills. You will be fine.
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Post by Gunny on Mar 22, 2024 18:18:52 GMT 1
I find the clip on bars on my N1,same as F1 quite uncomfortable. Was thinking of changing to LC2 top yoke and standard bars....But I just use my Lc instead
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Post by reedpete on Mar 22, 2024 21:01:12 GMT 1
Gunny has hit the nail I was going to mention… riding position and general physical comfort will dominate what’s ‘rideable’… Being used to all RDs and earlier piston port bikes, it’s not their powerband characteristics that’s any type of problem. Set up well they are all a joy to bumble about on. A faired YPVS will be the best on the motorway as cruising at 75 in the slow lane ( which you will be often forced to do by other traffic ) isn’t pleasant on the lower power bikes, but aside from that being a bit more upright with weight off wrists and lower back more vertical will improve comfort. I’m fortunate that my legs and knees don’t give me any bother (yet)… but I can imagine that aspect of posture will be a consideration for many. But overall, the lightness and power to weight of a YPVS makes it a great bike to ride into the sunset of life… There’s an old boy in our village (80+] who still regularly goes out in his MZ…. Makes me smile with admiration every time I see him…means there’s hope for us all…
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Post by masonmart on Mar 23, 2024 1:42:38 GMT 1
Damn, forgot the riding position, that is what could kill it for me. VFR was my poison of choice for many years and in the end the weight on wrist riding was too much so I always fitted bar risers. Are these available in any form for the F1. Thanks for the thoughts guys.
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Post by JonW on Mar 23, 2024 2:34:33 GMT 1
You need to rev a ypvs into the power as much as you can on a ride, it helps clean the PVs. Not that its a pain to do that, its what they are all about.
Id ride a ypvs or an LC as a daily round town/locally etc. why not, its a small usable bike that isnt great on the motorways but otherwise is easy to ride and is easy to sit on etc
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Post by masonmart on Mar 23, 2024 4:55:01 GMT 1
Jon, seems perfect apart from perhaps the lowish bars. Regarding Motorway riding, I'm OK if 70-75 mph is comfortable
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 23, 2024 10:48:47 GMT 1
Bike will happily sit at those speeds
I know these bikes have clip on bars but they aren't like riding a sports bike
I was surprised with the comfort of my 3hm1 rz250 but I think the bars sit an inch or so higher
It's strange that the 51L model 250 (same as f1) had higher clip ons
Rare to find them but proves that a higher clip on fits so maybe just fit a pair of aftermarket raised clip ons if too uncomfortable
Steve
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Post by lc350pete on Mar 23, 2024 10:53:56 GMT 1
Agree with all of the above, I’ve also got more modern 4 strokes but still love riding the LC2 , it’s fast enough to be fun , I don’t ride fast enough to notice any issues with brakes or handling to be honest As said it’s light enough to be easy to move around as well
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Post by abar121 on Mar 23, 2024 10:59:37 GMT 1
MM, If you can't get on with a VFR, the bars on the F1/N1 will be an issue for you.
Put an LCII top joke on as above. For me, the F1/N1 clip ons are high enough and just about perfect.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 23, 2024 12:16:21 GMT 1
Get a seat cut down
If you can't make the bars higher, make the seat lower 🤣
My hybrid is N1 style but I have yokes and normal handle bars
But then the way it encourages you to ride and the stupid over powered brakes still end up hurting my wrists 😕
Steve
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Post by masonmart on Mar 23, 2024 13:14:09 GMT 1
Alan, the VFR750 had bars that were quite low, the 800's were higher but it wasn't only a matter of weight on the wrists more mauling it around the garage with low bars with small turning circle that hit the tank.
Tbf my Velo has low bars and little turning circle but I don't use it too much. With the F1 I will have to try it and see, I reckon that it'll be perfect especially if I can get fitter and lighter which I'm working on. As said the seat can be lowered but no need yet.
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Post by freddie19 on Mar 23, 2024 19:55:25 GMT 1
You could try a pair of early 1979/80 Honda CB900FZ/FA raised clip on handlebars. They are 35mm and will fit on top of the fork legs like the F1's but give a higher riding position without having to change out the top yoke and bars to LC2! 🤔 These bars give a sporty but super comfortable riding position on my 900F. 👍 www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266539909726
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Post by masonmart on Mar 24, 2024 1:20:43 GMT 1
Thanks Freddie.
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Post by Gunny on Mar 25, 2024 18:15:11 GMT 1
My hybrid is N1 style but I have yokes and normal handle bars But then the way it encourages you to ride and the stupid over powered brakes still end up hurting my wrists 😕 Steve That shouldn’t have bothered you for some significant time then.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 25, 2024 18:18:47 GMT 1
My hybrid is N1 style but I have yokes and normal handle bars But then the way it encourages you to ride and the stupid over powered brakes still end up hurting my wrists 😕 Steve That shouldn’t have bothered you for some significant time then. Yeah, short term problem 🤣 I'll have you know I've bought new tyres for it, I may have them fitted by October 🤠 Steve
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Post by masonmart on Mar 26, 2024 8:37:49 GMT 1
I'm back Sunday and was hoping to be riding snug and dry in the warm sunshine. Oh dear.
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Post by beardy on Mar 26, 2024 8:58:55 GMT 1
Global warming in the UK has been replaced with Global drenching
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