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Post by jon on Mar 19, 2023 17:41:32 GMT 1
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Post by jon on Mar 19, 2023 17:43:54 GMT 1
Just had mine done by Mark Cordwell on all new bodywork for around £1,200+
Jon
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Post by jon on Mar 19, 2023 17:47:06 GMT 1
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Post by oldelsieboy on Mar 19, 2023 18:36:14 GMT 1
Bloody hell, the position of the tank stripes OEB
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Post by jon on Mar 19, 2023 18:54:09 GMT 1
Hadn’t noticed that. Just a quick flick through eBay every Sunday morning. Perhaps not then?
Jon
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Post by LC_BOTT on Mar 19, 2023 20:59:35 GMT 1
Bloody hell, the position of the tank stripes Bloody hell, the position of all the stripes, looks like they're all sliding off
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Post by donkeychomp on Mar 19, 2023 22:24:56 GMT 1
Just had mine done by Mark Cordwell on all new bodywork for around £1,200+ Jon Jon, was that price just to apply some paint to your own bodywork? Alex
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Post by rigga on Mar 19, 2023 22:30:11 GMT 1
Bloody hell, the position of the tank stripes Bloody hell, the position of all the stripes, looks like they're all sliding off Weight of the liner inside dragging them off kilter.
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Mar 19, 2023 22:50:26 GMT 1
Paintwork looks good, but please do some research with the tank graphic positioning.
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Mar 20, 2023 14:35:16 GMT 1
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Post by jon on Mar 20, 2023 14:35:16 GMT 1
Just had mine done by Mark Cordwell on all new bodywork for around £1,200+ Jon Jon, was that price just to apply some paint to your own bodywork? Alex No, that was the new panel work plus paint. Jon
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Post by donkeychomp on Mar 20, 2023 22:15:55 GMT 1
Hmm. Wonder what he charges if I supply a tank and all the panels?
Alex
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Post by JonW on Mar 20, 2023 23:14:32 GMT 1
Worth giving him a call Alex, Im sure his prices were posted on here before but they would be out of date now as paint has gone up.
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Post by rigga on Mar 20, 2023 23:19:21 GMT 1
Think my mate gave mark his bodywork, and had him repaint it in same bounty colours , for just over a grand, two years ago, as said prices may have increased since.
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Post by donkeychomp on Mar 21, 2023 0:54:45 GMT 1
That's a serious chunk of money. For sure his work is peerless but I might have another option. And no, it's not a DIY special.
Alex
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Post by JonW on Mar 21, 2023 1:46:49 GMT 1
Im just thinking out loud here and not in the loop in any way but... 1, new panels require no work, yet old panels will need repairs and that costs money, sometimes quite a lot more than new. For the LC I only paint new stuff now for that reason. 2, if 1200 quid is with new panels, then a tank is 400+ and the rest of the panels are able to be priced on norbos pages, so if you take those prices off then you should be able to get a bit of an idea what the job to coat new panels with no real work costs, maybe 600? thats old money tho, tanks at least have gone up... 3, most importantly, always ring the source before believing what is written on the net by people who may have old info and/or are not in the loop... and, generally... 4, dont use a car bodywork place... i know not all are bad, but most often they have no idea about bikes and their work is done for viewing 'large scale' ie a bonnet isnt viewed up close by anyone usually, plus its a vast area. this means it doesnt have to be as good as a bike bodywork job, which needs to be really good as you see it small and up close. Car places are also really bad at fitting bike graphics as not only do they have little experience with them, especially those that curve around like on the LC tank, but they also dont do anywhere as much investigation into where and how they fit as bike places do... and you will defo know a lot more than them, tho they may take your advice/info with a pinch of salt and often the guy doing the work isnt the guy in the office so will never hear your verbal helpful info. This can lead to issues like the tank shown above where stuff is very wrongly placed. and about decals, i'll add, 5, Who ever you use, unless they are an expert in the bike in question and have done loads youve seen and approved of, always... ALWAYS!... print out and give them a set of good clear photos of the locations you want the decals fitted. Without that you can end up with a right dogs breakfast... and its very late to fix it when things have been clear coated... 6, clear coating... if not clearcoating (panels other than the tank) you need decals that are designed to be left uncleared. Lots of us clear all the decals now as they last longer. Its not OEM but it looks better... IMHO. That 'IMHO' is important here as its probably contentious to say it, so its up to you. Just make sure to get ones that have a protection layer if not clearing all the panels. You decal supplier should ask you about this if he's any good. 6, Remember, its your money... get the result that you want. I have a mate who had a car place do a 'great value' white paint on new panels/tank for him. Being generous, its a '10ft job'. Would probably be ok on a race bike... Sadly, up close its awful and has inclusions, runs and orange peel etc etc. I looked it over with him and for sure it could be 'improved', but it'll never be a 100% job and hes shoved it in a cupboard as i think he feels a bit sick when he looks at it. Ok, for sure it was 'cheap', tho for him its not been 'cheerful'... but when you talk to the next painter you find that in fact its been worse than a waste of the money he spent so far. It transpires that he'll not only lose the money he outlaid with the car place, plus the money in the decals too, but it'll also now cost him more as this bad paint/decal job now needs to come off what was brand new tank/panels and labour is costed hourly at bodyshops and not forgotten in the bill. Food for thought. There is a quote that goes along the lines that ' the sting of the cost is quickly forgotten on a good job, the sting of a bad job lasts forever...'7th and lastly... There are other bike painters in the UK if you dont want to use the ones mentioned often on this forum, then google/fb etc etc should give you info/reviews of them too.
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Post by jon on Mar 21, 2023 8:29:32 GMT 1
Hmm. Wonder what he charges if I supply a tank and all the panels? Alex The price I quoted was with me supplying panels as a total. I got the panels on offer though. Phone him and ask current prices. As Jon says above there is more work in second hand panels so it costs more to paint. Jon
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Post by dusty350 on Mar 21, 2023 8:44:00 GMT 1
The cost of running a unit now must be prohibitive for a lot of small firms. Mark is a "one man band", and can only do so much in a day, so his prices have to reflect his costs and the amount of work he can generate. He has reduced the size of the workshop but he still has all the bills for light, heat, rent etc, and as we know, they have all rocketed recently. I used to spray my own bodywork, as I'm sure we all have at some time, but nothing can touch a good pro job by someone who knows bikes, and ours in particular, so well. Yea, it's a chunk of money, but it's the first "part" you see on any bike, and has to be right, imo. But, each to their own, and if you want a bike to rag everywhere and aren't too worried by aesthetics, then there is a place for a home rattle can paint job. Never used to bother me like it does now, but since I caught OCD from the resto section of this forum ( ), I have to factor in a pro paint job on any new resto. Not sure what the current cost is, but Mark had kept his prices virtually the same for years, pre Global meltdown Dusty
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Post by rigga on Mar 21, 2023 9:11:01 GMT 1
Chris Griffin down Leicester way seems to get positive reviews from what I've seen,and his prices are keener than Marks, must be more about, as LC owners are spread country wide.
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Mar 21, 2023 9:32:58 GMT 1
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 21, 2023 9:32:58 GMT 1
Hmm. Wonder what he charges if I supply a tank and all the panels? Alex I had a set done last October from him A standard colour job was £750 £850 if it was a 2 colour KR/Akai etc Steve
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Mar 21, 2023 9:39:38 GMT 1
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 21, 2023 9:39:38 GMT 1
Should add that that was a rust free tank with a minor dent and new plastics
Belly pan and fairing will push it over a grand
Steve
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Post by 29davyt on Mar 21, 2023 10:10:38 GMT 1
Not sure about car body shops but I had mine done at a car restoration place, top job for I think was £360, decals supplied and fitted at image works then all lacquered over so about £420 in total, image works commented on quality of paintwork and attention to detail as good as some painters mentioned here,, that was in 2020 so likely to of gone up..
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Post by JonW on Mar 21, 2023 12:44:55 GMT 1
Good point, Im sure a car resto place would be more likely to do a good job compared to a car accident repair centre who makes its money with insurance jobs etc. But, I still believe that in general motorcycle bodywork is best painted by a dedicated motorcycle painter.
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Post by abar121 on Mar 21, 2023 13:56:18 GMT 1
As above, car body work plus image works for decal fitment can work out excellently. They spend plenty of time preparing / painting smaller panels, plastic bumpers / trim / mirrors etc.
Yonks ago I had a 4LO set that had already been painted, but no decals / lacquer. I got the decals fitted by image works and a local car paint shop (does work for Mercedes UK including press cars), offered to lacquer the set for £100.
It seemed funny talking to the workshop manager about the 200k lime green Merc AMG GT-R Black Series in for repairs, whilst holding some tin metal from an LC!
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Post by donkeychomp on Mar 21, 2023 23:15:37 GMT 1
Thanks lads and all food for thought. I was considering asking the classic car resto place next door to the mechanic I use. And I do have options. I am pretty handy with a rattle can so I might just get them to do that tank only. Side panels and tail piece I can easily do myself but I will have to make sure the tank is painted in a colour I can actually buy in a can! Decals will be an Image Works job. Not doing that by myself again. But I can post them the tank easily enough.
Alex
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Post by JonW on Mar 21, 2023 23:24:22 GMT 1
Any paint shop can match the tank to the panels youve already painted Alex. IMHO thats worth bearing in mind as just buying the colour ready mixed isnt an exact science and some aftermarket paint is a woeful match to the original car paint etc. not least as some has clever stages and different base coats/primers to get the effect. Its often simpler to take a panel you know is finished and have them match that. Some also say you can 2pack clear over a rattle can job, but Ive yet to meet a bodyshop that wants to. Tho has to be said my painter is very picky about 'part jobs' as he says he doesnt want his name to be associated with cut corners, which i do understand. Anyway, Ive done exactly what you are suggesting by using a can, it turned out ok... not as good as a 100% job or as long lasting. It all depends on what you want; point 6 that I made above. For a bike that I want to keep and smile when i look at it, I think spending up on the paint is worth it... thats why i do it. Also, with the peer pressure here to push for better and better builds, its pretty hard not to go the whole hog and pay a pro to do the bit that most people look at first lol One other thing Ive learnt... paint never gets cheaper, its like everything else. I wish Id painted all my bikes 5 years back as its between 25 and 50% more now for the parts, labour and paint materials etc.
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Post by jon on Mar 22, 2023 0:26:50 GMT 1
I’ve done my own paint for years. Have a semi professional setup. Just this time I thought I’d get a pro to do it. May tax the wallet, but not the spare time.
Jon
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Post by 29davyt on Mar 22, 2023 10:09:24 GMT 1
A good paint job sets the bike off imo, makes it look very clean somehow ,,
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Post by dusty350 on Mar 22, 2023 18:15:51 GMT 1
Alex, the paint shop on the opposite side of Kingston Rd to the now defunct Black Dog Motorcycles will scan a panel/tank and then match it for you, and put it in a rattle can. A 400ml can of matched paint is approx 15 quid when I asked a few months back. He has all the fine line tape etc - everything for spraying your panels yourself. I would get the tank done then have a go at the rest yourself, with matched paint😉
Dusty😉
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Post by donkeychomp on Mar 22, 2023 22:08:51 GMT 1
That is a great idea Dusty. I'd forgotten about them. I think I'll take the tank in and see what the bodyshop says about it. You never know, they may have done these before. Failing that there is another place there that might do it too. Waymeadows Industrial Estate in Chertsey. Lots of units there!
Alex
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Mar 22, 2023 22:49:50 GMT 1
Funnily enough I did the reverse recently. I had a full set of painted panels, and a decent primered tank and got my local car body shop to match the tank to the panels. Cost me £130 plus a trip to Image Works for decals fitted, was £60 plus my fuel. Painter then lacquered over the tank for me. Painter had not real prep to do other than flatting off etc.
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