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Post by Tobyjugs on Nov 1, 2020 23:08:35 GMT 1
To be honest I do like Keeses RD it's fairly standard. The suspension is adjusted and Toight like a Tiger and the engine is tuned with different pipes. It's a great bike to ride.
I liked it a lot with the 250 engine fitted in it as well.
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Post by lcmarky on Nov 2, 2020 11:50:44 GMT 1
The reason I find answering this poll tricky is the same reason I have two LC's
One is a standardish looking 350 to 400 conversion with bigger carbs, spannies, uprated suspension, brakes etc and will soon be finished...
& the other is a mint (probably better than new seeing as it was meticulously hand built) 350LC with everything standard (oh apart from the VAPE as I don't want to rely in 40 year old electrics & you can't see it!)
The latter I bought as I soon realised the resources needed to put an original one together as opposed to a modified bike were much greater than the bike itself.
I don't as yet have a hybrid, but that's probably because I've a couple of other 2T's too..
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Post by steve63 on Nov 2, 2020 13:45:44 GMT 1
As Mr Yamaha san built them. If I want to make it "better" I will buy a "better" motorcycle like a YPVS... Colour, passivate can go though... Just to make anoraks cry. Will turn my £3k mile one into a Proddy racer copy using the old ACU rule book complete with bent around brake pedal, rear-sets using the rear footpegs fixed in the hole in the brackets, chopped up exhauste with baffling removed and dented in for ground clearance, no air filter or box top, Harpower reeds ect.... (Std bars though!) Why? My old LC was the comfiest bike I've ever had the pleasure of ridding. But your bike.. do as pleases you.. and annoy the passivate police... especially the ones looking for the factory dash of paint on fixings Brilliant Harpower Reeds blast from the past. (Bernard was a great guy) I did all of the above, plus a bit more. "Allegedly" back in 82-83 also the airbox modification to get passed the scrutineer test with card over the air intake to see if the engine cuts out. Bending mudguard brace to fit KR 124 tyre and cutting chain guard and bending brake torque arm to fit TG22 rear tyre Great times! So for me its got to be modified as much as possible for me As my bike "TZR Special" only started life with a ypvs cases & gearbox all the rest is modidfed the lot. its not to everyones taste. You must have been writing this about the scrutineer and their test cards as I was writing my bit The most 'jobsworth' scrutineer I remember always had a much shorter queue than all the others. I went in his lane because I knew mine was fine. What I didn't take into account was his pathological dedication to the rule book. He noticed someone, the previous owner, had cut a small rectangle out of the chainguard to stop the tyre touching it. It was fitted with a Dunlop KR164 but then so were all the others. He quoted the rule book saying no modifications are permitted to allow the fitment of larger tyres. Being awkward I said that as it had failed scrutineering and was therefore not a Production machine he would have no problem with me entering it in the open class 350. The rules were that production machines could not enter in the open classes. He wouldn't allow that but I put some tape over the cut away chain guard and he was happy again.
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Post by steve63 on Nov 2, 2020 13:59:15 GMT 1
ACU rule book says the airbox shall be un-modified, exhausts shall remain un-modified, tut tut Auto 66 would sometimes check bikes as they came back in. They removed the tank and blocked the airbox inlet. If the bike continued to run it obviously had another way for the air to get in so the rider would be disqualified. It happened to a mate of mine. They said it's either got a hole in it or its magically running without air. They put a red line next to his name that went to the bottom of the results. Some of the other riders wanted all his points for the event removing. They only checked the top three so I was safe Mind you mine was legal and as it happens also faster than his Haha! Unmodified yes! just removed lid was ok! Remember having holes in the box was a no no. Mine was legal and still had oil pump... minus drive gear. only ever got to a 5th at aintree so never checked there., but it was checked (at random)elsewhere. Some were 275 and 350... Mine was a 350 but then it was supposed to be The 4L0 may or may not have been legal, I can't really remember but any scrutineers waiting around to check bikes as they came in had got bored and gone back to their vans by the time I rolled up at the exit. I did bother the top 3 a couple of times on the 31K but no one ever checked the bike after the race. There was only the incident with the cut-away chain guard above. I remember someone said disconnecting the generator produced a bit more power but I never bothered. Some clubs checked for your lights working My bike was held back by lack of talent not power If anyone remembers the Corner brothers? A lot of people said Mick Corners bike was fast but mine was a lot quicker. I said that to him once and he said yeah its a dog but I only finished in front of him when he fell off.
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Post by steve h on Nov 2, 2020 14:57:12 GMT 1
The way round the chainguard was to re-weld the bracket on the swing arm, moving the chainguard outwards.... learnt that only recently... ahh well .. better late than never! I'm lying about not having a modified bike though. I've spent a fortune on one.. in fact the only thing left of the original bike is a single green passivated 6mm nut...... Next time I'll just go and buy a bloody Hornet and save the £20k+ in conversion fees My 250LC was modded to the spec as in the magazine feature on Matt Oxleys 250 by myself. No need for any more work, was good to go. Jonnie C would of won on it!!
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Post by julianboolean on Nov 2, 2020 17:48:24 GMT 1
I'm not that fond of standard LCs, especially 350s, they're a bit woolly engine response wise as they came from Yamaha, it doesn't take much to make them a lot crisper, just get the squish band to 0.9mm and away you go, then get porting and exhausts to put the power whereabouts in the rev range you want it. The handling on both the standard LCs I had wasn't great either, but the ex proddy race 250 I had handled a lot better, despite looking standard.
I much prefer power valves as the handling is better, again they're much crisper with a mild tune, but if you're going for anything over a genuine 70bhp the frame is better with bracing at the swing arm pivot area, and if you're a hard rider it's worth bracing the steering head as well, especially if you're fitting modern forks and brakes, the forks will no longer flex but the frame will.
To make my YPVS into a matching numbers pristine bike would cost a lot of money (new frame and cases for starters) but if they're fetching over £6K then it would probably be a financially viable thing to do so long as you did most of the work yourself - I don't want to do this, I want a YPVS to ride round on and not worry about falling off it, it may look a bit tatty and be missing loads of original bits, but I wouldn't want to ride a bike on track where the clocks cost £500 to replace, mine cost under £30 and do the same job.
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Post by copper99 on Nov 2, 2020 20:14:09 GMT 1
There ALL good with me..Would like one of each as a minimum but you cant have it all....
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