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Post by icarus001 on Dec 18, 2019 4:15:32 GMT 1
Anyone have any recommendations for these guys?
I know someone through another bike club that has asked me for advice on ebay item number 283713572795 and apart from counting the rivets the thing that always concerns me with these bikes is why not just finish it off before selling?
It's not registered and unless there is something wrong with it then it's a simple process and surely makes sense to do that before putting up up for auction?
He also looks to have a couple of N1's and I'd really like another one, I regret selling mine.
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Dec 18, 2019 6:43:16 GMT 1
Well its a nice looking bike and mostly original but I agree, its a bit weird, states 'the front brakes need bleeding, there are a couple of nuts and bolts missing all the fluids will need topping up' - well that should take an hour, 2 at most, but they have time 'no to finish it off'.
Like you, I would find those 2 hours, and a couple more to take it for MOT and fill in the V55/5 application and then sell it as a completed build, to give both buyer and seller confidence in the product.
I suppose it depends on what the reserve is set at, as could end up a bargain for someone if not too high.
My guess is £5.5 to £6.5k once finished to a decent standard and UK registered. Needs UK clocks which could cost up to £300. I'd want to check on how much and who did the engine rebuild. Worth giving the fella a call to clarify things before bidding.
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Post by hoist1 on Dec 18, 2019 6:57:44 GMT 1
It is odd but dealers don’t seem to want to spend any money until bikes are sold, and like in this case the bike would be sold as seen. Taking into account parts and wages it may not be such a cheap fix, just make a bit ( or a lot ) and move it on to put back into the pot.
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Post by hoist1 on Dec 18, 2019 7:03:53 GMT 1
Another odd thing I have found is when a dealer makes you wait days for collection , supposedly to service it , then don’t even seem to have done anything anyway! Think it must be a power trip for some and they are sad c...s .
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Post by earthman on Dec 18, 2019 8:50:45 GMT 1
Back in the day bike dealers would sort this kind of stuff out straight away, well the good ones did. Not so many bike shops around period now, not much competition so can't be bothered??
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Post by JonW on Dec 18, 2019 9:48:54 GMT 1
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Dec 18, 2019 9:57:24 GMT 1
He's a bike and car dealer
Google him and you find his website
May be that cars are his thing and the bikes an add on
As you say Jon, it looks like he is just buying and selling
He has a UK 350 for £12500 so shows the cut of his cloth
Steve
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Post by shell2tx on Dec 18, 2019 10:32:38 GMT 1
Yes obviously flipping them they are not that cheap either but they do look better than the d+k ones now they are really taking the piss just somebody else jumping on the bandwagon they are also advertised on car and classic.
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Post by yamman1066 on Dec 18, 2019 10:42:45 GMT 1
i think the project bikes , he wants 7k each
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Post by shell2tx on Dec 18, 2019 10:53:31 GMT 1
Happy days that means the 6 lc,s and 3 31ks I have here are worth over 90k not!!! I'm sure he has been sitting on them for long enough so he will be sitting on them till the day they make it illegal to even start a two stroke!!!
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Post by earthman on Dec 18, 2019 12:13:50 GMT 1
Happy days that means the 6 lc,s and 3 31ks I have here are worth over 90k not!!! I'm sure he has been sitting on them for long enough so he will be sitting on them till the day they make it illegal to even start a two stroke!!! Lol, that could happen I suppose, another reason to get the miles in now. |
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Post by hoist1 on Dec 18, 2019 12:31:19 GMT 1
He's a bike and car dealer Google him and you find his website May be that cars are his thing and the bikes an add on As you say Jon, it looks like he is just buying and selling He has a UK 350 for £12500 so shows the cut of his cloth Steve Bikes take up less space and it looks like the mark up is not bad either. Unless he is letting someone like a son trade out of there. I went to collect some bike parts from a father and son business trading from a shared unit, the father wouldn’t deal with me and things got interesting after that. They don’t deserve any trade, but as in a certain countrywide car tyres , brakes and exhaust company that I hear a lot of horror tales about, people do use them. |
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Post by reedpete on Dec 18, 2019 19:13:36 GMT 1
Here’s my take:
no mention of 4L0 and being sold by someone who defo knows that’s important....
Dating certificate most probably has to call it as it is if it’s matching 4L1, I’m guessing the model will be stated as 250....
Either way it ends up as a mess when you try to register because either you have to convert temporarily to a 250 then return, or get and MOT and try sort of the change of cc at the time..
Usually the expectations lie in what’s not said rather than what is said....
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Post by markhoopy on Dec 19, 2019 0:39:24 GMT 1
And here's my take .. people on the lookout for a good 350LC know how expensive they are.
Putting a bike up for sale that only seems to need a couple of hours' work to make it roadworthy will tempt bids because those same people will think they can buy cheap and easily add value to it. The 'must have it' mentality pushes the price up which then generates more bids until the final sale price is at or very near to the true value of a matching numbers UK 350. What happens once the new owner gets the bike home, tops up the oil and brake fluid only to find it all pissing out on the garage floor the next morning .. or as already mentioned the 4L1 frame number?
Sort those minor problems out for yourself matey boy .. the receipt clearly states 'sold as seen ..'
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Post by icarus001 on Dec 19, 2019 4:23:31 GMT 1
That's my take on it as well.
It raises too many questions.
If it was easy to register and have looking really nice with no issues he'd have done it himself.
Somewhere, there will be problems with that.
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Post by donkeychomp on Dec 20, 2019 0:30:22 GMT 1
It's an odd one. All the original decals on it put me off. I get the running in one on the rev counter but who puts the tank fuel decal on when doing a resto? I dunno but I smell something and it ain't 2 stroke fumes.
Alex
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Post by veg on Dec 20, 2019 0:33:26 GMT 1
10 odd years ago there seemed to be a bit of a thing for putting the tacho running in sticker, the fuel tank sticker and the infamous chain guard stickers on all rebuilds,
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Post by JonW on Dec 20, 2019 3:43:12 GMT 1
Yes I remember that Veg, all decals that can be left off imho. Ive never seen the point in them, its not like its actually new bike even if its restored.
The chain guard and brake lining stickers irk me something rotten these days... i must be getting old and crotchety haha!
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Post by bluestone on Apr 16, 2020 18:11:28 GMT 1
I live pretty close to this guy so if anyone ws interested in a bike I'd be happy to pop down and check it out on their behalf
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Post by yamman1066 on Apr 16, 2020 19:29:19 GMT 1
He's a bike and car dealer !!!!
Google him and you find his website
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