|
|
Post by Yogi on Oct 14, 2019 11:01:31 GMT 1
|
|
|
|
Post by midlifecrisisrd on Oct 14, 2019 12:30:21 GMT 1
Jeez! Not even a history on it.
Steve
|
|
|
|
Post by JonW on Oct 14, 2019 12:37:57 GMT 1
500 kicker tho... theyre getting 'spensive now lol
|
|
|
|
Post by steve h on Oct 14, 2019 15:00:47 GMT 1
Of course it's worth the price, cant you read? It's out of a "special" bike. "Special needs" springs to mind...
|
|
|
|
Post by fatfastroger on Oct 14, 2019 15:12:47 GMT 1
FFS
|
|
|
|
Post by veg on Oct 14, 2019 18:05:30 GMT 1
How many of you would complain if someone offered ya £3k for ya motors? Thought not ya dogs. He’s just trying to make a living at everyone’s expense.
|
|
|
|
Post by steve h on Oct 14, 2019 23:28:45 GMT 1
How many of you would complain if someone offered ya £3k for ya motors? Thought not ya dogs. He’s just trying to make a living at everyone’s expense. Nope.. not at my expense. And at that price.. it will be at his expense! |
|
|
|
Post by veg on Oct 15, 2019 3:08:56 GMT 1
Tongue was firmly in cheek
|
|
|
|
Post by fozzy17 on Oct 15, 2019 7:05:30 GMT 1
i have a complete running F1 bike for less crazy price
|
|
|
|
Post by steve h on Oct 15, 2019 17:03:13 GMT 1
Tongue was firmly in cheek I know!  |
|
|
|
Post by jon on Oct 15, 2019 18:46:12 GMT 1
I’ve got a very nice YPVS engine in bits, that I did consider selling if I built a 421.
However recent posts on here have persuaded me to stick with it.
I’ve not seen another in such nice original condition that looks like it had never been apart from new before I split it. Recon crank with new rods and TZ big ends, rebore and new pistons on cylinders in OEM paint etc, new genuine bearings and gaskets.
It’s like a time capsule with many olive parts looking like new, and would have suited a certain type of build, it has provenance with Austrian logbook, and I was still fretting about advertising it around £2k.
Jon
|
|
|
|
Post by dusty350 on Oct 16, 2019 7:18:12 GMT 1
If you want a Pv engine nowadays, a ropey one will cost you 1k on ebay. Expect to rebuild that engine, and if you do it with new Yam "everything, vapour blasting and powdercoating etc etc, that will cost you another 1k, so 2k for a totally rebuilt engine is about right, cost wise. And that's doing the build yourself - more if you hand it to someone else of course. So 3k - not a chance, even with the carbs, rad etc. Worry is, everyone else will think their ropey old engine is worth 3k, and the prices rocket all over again. Just plain greed  Dusty |
|
|
|
Post by stanlc7189 on Oct 16, 2019 22:45:57 GMT 1
The words ‘ cloud’, ‘cuckoo’, and ‘land’ instantly spring to mind.
|
|
|
|
Post by rigga on Oct 17, 2019 6:43:23 GMT 1
|
|
|
|
Post by jon on Oct 17, 2019 7:05:52 GMT 1
Cases are chain damaged, and no mention of when it was last rebuilt/reconditioned?
Jon
|
|
|
|
Post by dusty350 on Oct 17, 2019 7:23:39 GMT 1
And unless you know who rebuilt the engine, and what parts were used, a "rebuilt engine" will always be a lottery. Shambits crank seals anyone ??  I bought a bike with a " rebuilt engine by an Lc specialist". Looked great on the outside, but was totally knackered on the inside, something only apparent after it was given a cautionary top end strip. No one on here I might add. There are plenty of sharks out there that will tart up an engine and sell as rebuilt, when the opposite is true. The Pv engine I bought for the café racer had a new top end but a dodgy crank seal - lucky that I was always going to rebuild it anyway. I always expect to rebuild any engine I buy, unless I am absolutely certain of it's history. Dusty |
|
|
|
Post by stusco on Oct 17, 2019 7:25:54 GMT 1
It doesn’t help when motorcycle mechanics magazine champions yambits
|
|
|
|
Post by jon on Oct 17, 2019 7:48:38 GMT 1
It doesn’t help when motorcycle mechanics magazine champions yambits Do you think it’s really because of their parts/service or their wallet? Jon |
|
|
|
Post by stusco on Oct 17, 2019 7:51:00 GMT 1
Not sure !i remember Niall Mackenzie rebuilding a ac rd with yambits parts in the magazine
|
|
|
|
Post by dusty350 on Oct 17, 2019 10:23:27 GMT 1
A real coup for Yambits, getting their name mentioned in high profile rebuilds in a national/international magazine. I would wager they virtually gave away the parts for those articles, knowing the spotlight would bring more sales.
Dusty
|
|
|
|
Post by veg on Oct 17, 2019 13:04:58 GMT 1
And unless you know who rebuilt the engine, and what parts were used, a "rebuilt engine" will always be a lottery. Shambits crank seals anyone ?? I bought a bike with a " rebuilt engine by an Lc specialist". Looked great on the outside, but was totally knackered on the inside, something only apparent after it was given a cautionary top end strip. No one on here I might add. There are plenty of sharks out there that will tart up an engine and sell as rebuilt, when the opposite is true. The Pv engine I bought for the café racer had a new top end but a dodgy crank seal - lucky that I was always going to rebuild it anyway. I always expect to rebuild any engine I buy, unless I am absolutely certain of it's history. Dusty Had exactly the same experience on the old site bought a rebuilt motor didn’t use it for a couple of years split it and it was all his knackered bits in one motor. I was fuming his response was buyer beware. I know who he is and know he is still involved in lc’s karmas a bitch |
|
|
|
Post by rigga on Oct 17, 2019 22:20:42 GMT 1
Knocked £150 off .... fookin bargain
|
|
|
|
Post by icarus001 on Oct 18, 2019 3:50:43 GMT 1
The price of bikes is going down and the price of parts is going up.
Funny old world.
I've got a valve engine on my bench, top end rebuilt with new OEM valves/bushes/etc and it owes me £1250 just as it sits, with a crank rebuild and gearbox rebuild I could easily see it owing me £2k.
Then if I was selling it as a business I'd want to see a decent margin, so in principle I can see why they're getting pricey, but yeah, this bloke is a chancer.
|
|
|
|
Post by earthman on Oct 18, 2019 9:17:01 GMT 1
How does anyone turn this sort of thing into a viable business?
Watching the likes of Henry Cole & Sam Lovegrove doing the rounds at auto jumbos, buying, fixing, selling on things.
Doesn't seem like two people's wages at the end of each episode to me?
My guess is that the TV/production side of things is actually the bread winner here.
|
|
|
|
Post by icarus001 on Oct 18, 2019 12:30:59 GMT 1
How does anyone turn this sort of thing into a viable business? Watching the likes of Henry Cole & Sam Lovegrove doing the rounds at auto jumbos, buying, fixing, selling on things. Doesn't seem like two people's wages at the end of each episode to me? My guess is that the TV/production side of things is actually the bread winner here. If you'd have bought up a load of RD stuff when you couldn't give it away, and hoarded it all away in a big warehouse then you'd have made good money. I remember going to a breakers and seeing a load of LC frames and engines sitting there, all worth hardly anything, in fact probably worth more in scrap weight than actual item value at one point. Decent 350LC's were a few hundred quid, I think I paid £350 for a decent LC, probably matching numbers although I never checked back in the day. It had a rattle can spray job that wasn't half bad, but the rest of the bike was really tidy. If I'd have mothballed that in the early 90's, along with a few dozen others then I'd have made a few bob, especially when they were selling for silly money a couple of years ago. £350 in 1990/91 would be worth just over £800 today considering inflation, so if you had a matching numbers LC bought at £350 and selling at £5k you'd have made a tidy profit on a shed load of them. In my experience it was a lot harder to sell bikes before the internet, you had to either part-ex them or put an advert in the newspaper and wait, so people were more inclined to take a fistfull of cash if you turned up and haggled, because they might have to put another advert in the paper, etc, and wait weeks for another seller to come along. |
|
|
|
Post by earthman on Oct 18, 2019 12:43:47 GMT 1
How does anyone turn this sort of thing into a viable business? Watching the likes of Henry Cole & Sam Lovegrove doing the rounds at auto jumbos, buying, fixing, selling on things. Doesn't seem like two people's wages at the end of each episode to me? My guess is that the TV/production side of things is actually the bread winner here. If you'd have bought up a load of RD stuff when you couldn't give it away, and hoarded it all away in a big warehouse then you'd have made good money. I remember going to a breakers and seeing a load of LC frames and engines sitting there, all worth hardly anything, in fact probably worth more in scrap weight than actual item value at one point. Decent 350LC's were a few hundred quid, I think I paid £350 for a decent LC, probably matching numbers although I never checked back in the day. It had a rattle can spray job that wasn't half bad, but the rest of the bike was really tidy. If I'd have mothballed that in the early 90's, along with a few dozen others then I'd have made a few bob, especially when they were selling for silly money a couple of years ago. £350 in 1990/91 would be worth just over £800 today considering inflation, so if you had a matching numbers LC bought at £350 and selling at £5k you'd have made a tidy profit on a shed load of them. In my experience it was a lot harder to sell bikes before the internet, you had to either part-ex them or put an advert in the newspaper and wait, so people were more inclined to take a fistfull of cash if you turned up and haggled, because they might have to put another advert in the paper, etc, and wait weeks for another seller to come along. Point taken but how big of a warehouse would you need to insure you could make a livable income out of it until your pension kicks in? Whatever the make/model of vehicle, it's a gamble and surely that bubble will burst sooner or later, ending that flow of cash. |
|
|
|
Post by icarus001 on Oct 18, 2019 13:19:08 GMT 1
Point taken but how big of a warehouse would you need to insure you could make a livable income out of it until your pension kicks in? Whatever the make/model of vehicle, it's a gamble and surely that bubble will burst sooner or later, ending that flow of cash. Yeah I agree, it's not easy money and you'd have been a bit of a visionary and risk taker to have done it. But if you didn't have expensive tastes and you'd have had the foresight to invest then it would probably keep you chugging along for a bit. I was down in Suffolk recently and went into Andy Tiernan's place, it's more like a museum than a shop but apparently he's made a tidy living off classic bikes and buying with a bit of common sense and an eye to the future. Without a doubt he could sell up and wouldn't have to worry about money as long as he didn't go daft. I know another small shop owner that has shrewdly collected various decent bikes and now he's sixty he's virtually packed in with the service side of his shop and he just sells a bike every now and then to top up his money. It won't last forever, but some folk are happy on a state pension if everything they have is paid for. |
|
|
|
Post by roach3 on Oct 18, 2019 13:39:43 GMT 1
Isnt the trick now to guess future classics?
not that many of us will be around to reap the benefits
|
|
I bought a bike with a " rebuilt engine by an Lc specialist". Looked great on the outside, but was totally knackered on the inside, something only apparent after it was given a cautionary top end strip. No one on here I might add. There are plenty of sharks out there that will tart up an engine and sell as rebuilt, when the opposite is true. The Pv engine I bought for the café racer had a new top end but a dodgy crank seal - lucky that I was always going to rebuild it anyway. I always expect to rebuild any engine I buy, unless I am absolutely certain of it's history.
