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Post by veg on Apr 29, 2019 21:54:30 GMT 1
Thinking of selling my build once it has a new set of pipes made for it. Now I know it won’t make back what I have spent on it but I have priced the bits as it may pay to break it. I want to build another lc special. What do you reckon price wise?
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Post by donkeychomp on Apr 29, 2019 22:32:05 GMT 1
Well...it is a total one off for a start. The anti dive is unique. Paint is stunning. What are the new exhausts you'll be fitting? It's very hard to put a price on these kind of bikes. But with new zorsts on her I'd say £8-9K. Just my opinion mind!
Alex
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Post by veg on Apr 29, 2019 22:36:37 GMT 1
The pipes will be a set of daves, it’s potentially worth more in bits tbh.
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Post by tipfinchy on Apr 29, 2019 23:25:51 GMT 1
would it not serve as the base for the special you want to build , rather than brake it sell trade parts to get where you want to be could be an option shame to part a bike as unique as that mart oh price wise clueless as usual
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Post by icarus001 on Apr 30, 2019 2:55:38 GMT 1
This is one of those things where you might find someone who really wants exactly what you've built and knows the amount of work/cash it takes to build one, and he comes with a five figure sum and buys it off you. Or it could go on ebay and make six grand.
I've got twelve grand in mine and I can see it making between six and seven on ebay, with the standard parts as part of the package. When it was first completed someone offered ten grand there and then, it was someone that had witnessed the build and knew what went into it and wanted one exactly like it, but at that time I didn't want to sell at any price. I'd be very lucky to find someone like that again - and if I did I'd let them have it now for ten, as much as I love my LC I'm not sure I really enjoy riding it as much as I did.
You've got something very niche, and whilst I think most LC nuts would appreciate it, perhaps there aren't so many who would choose to part with strong money for it.
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Post by dusty350 on Apr 30, 2019 7:19:03 GMT 1
Always really difficult to price them. Icarus is spot on in my opinion. If you find the right buyer, with enough cash, then you could realise north of 10k. But, prices seem to have stalled recently, and the high end bikes don't seem to sell as easily as they did. It's a stunning hybrid, and the sum of it's parts are worth more than the complete bike only if you can sell them all at a good price. People will always view them as second hand parts, with no guarantees, even if hardly used, so it's a risky strategy. I was fortunate when I sold my white Lc hybrid last year. I knew the buyer - he had seen the bike and followed the build. It was exactly what he wanted, and he paid a 5 figure sum for it. That was based on what it would cost to build again. But, if you walked into a Motorcycle dealership with over 10k in your pocket, you could leave with something pretty awesome, so that makes a 10k+ Lc seem mad It's easy to get caught up in spending large on these builds - I'm as guilty as anyone of that, but you can get your money back to a certain point, and after that I think we have to accept writing the rest off, unless you find that one particular buyer. Hate to say it, but ebay, with a reserve, will tell you better than us, what people think it's worth, as you will hit a much bigger audience. Or, as mentioned, strip it and use a lot of the parts on the next one, giving yourself a head start with parts you already have. Downside is , if like me you need to sell a bike to fund the next one, you wont have the capitol to start with. Good luck whatever you decide Dusty
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Post by Norbo on Apr 30, 2019 7:31:11 GMT 1
whats wrong with the pipes that are on it now .
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Post by earthman on Apr 30, 2019 7:47:07 GMT 1
I can understand that a fair few of you have fallen into the rebuild then sell cycle trap.
My question is, have you thought about moving onto another make/model of motorcycle, one that hopefully doesn't cost an arm and a leg in parts?
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Post by jackjabba on Apr 30, 2019 8:23:23 GMT 1
I can understand that a fair few of you have fallen into the rebuild then sell cycle trap. My question is, have you thought about moving onto another make/model of motorcycle, one that hopefully doesn't cost an arm and a leg in parts? This the " RDLC Crazy" forum you know. The Crazy doesn't just mean your mad about them.
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Post by veg on Apr 30, 2019 9:21:28 GMT 1
Thanks chaps. Kind of where I was thinking. I could retain some of it but that isn’t the point for me. Dusty you’re right I don’t have endless limitless pockets ( my wife and sons 4 horses see to that). It is a conundrum that will probably play out. Norbo the pipes are all top 10k+rpm I want to see just what she will do with a set of daves pipes. I know I won’t get back the mid teens I have invested. Earth man jackjabba is right , and unless I built some cx500 hipster bullshit ain’t no way your going to make money. Maybe if I fit brown grips a brown plank for a seat and cover everything in exhaust bandages I could ask real money?
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Post by Norbo on Apr 30, 2019 9:35:39 GMT 1
All i was thinking was if your selling your spending more money on it and it looks sweet as right now and once its sold some one elce can faff about with it.
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Post by headcoats on Apr 30, 2019 10:28:24 GMT 1
Probably best to get the exhausts on and get it dynoed to show folks the power delivery
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Post by abar121 on Apr 30, 2019 11:15:28 GMT 1
I think you need to use it at least once in anger and see what a wonderful 'stroker it is. You'll regret it otherwise..
It's a beauty!
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Post by icarus001 on Apr 30, 2019 15:49:28 GMT 1
I can understand that a fair few of you have fallen into the rebuild then sell cycle trap. My question is, have you thought about moving onto another make/model of motorcycle, one that hopefully doesn't cost an arm and a leg in parts? People get their enjoyment from different things in regard to their bikes, some people like to ride them, some people like to polish them, some people like to build them and some people just like to buy and sell them....sometimes without even riding them. I find that it's not often people like to do all those things and some people are obsessed with just one of those aspects. Personally I'm not a polisher, I like to tinker a bit but I'm not really a bike builder either, but I get why people like to do it.
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Post by Yogi on Apr 30, 2019 15:55:54 GMT 1
I just think your toooo scared to unleash it 🤪 or are you coming to the dark,much faster side 👌
On a serious note, I haven’t a clue on lc stuff
Good luck whatever you decide 👍
Matt 🐻
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Post by earthman on Apr 30, 2019 16:39:18 GMT 1
I can understand that a fair few of you have fallen into the rebuild then sell cycle trap. My question is, have you thought about moving onto another make/model of motorcycle, one that hopefully doesn't cost an arm and a leg in parts? People get their enjoyment from different things in regard to their bikes, some people like to ride them, some people like to polish them, some people like to build them and some people just like to buy and sell them....sometimes without even riding them. I find that it's not often people like to do all those things and some people are obsessed with just one of those aspects. Personally I'm not a polisher, I like to tinker a bit but I'm not really a bike builder either, but I get why people like to do it. I get all that, for those who are on the build/sell merry go round, just wondering if there is a cheaper option for them.
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Post by dusty350 on Apr 30, 2019 17:07:58 GMT 1
The good thing about Lc's in particular, is the availability of parts both genuine and good pattern, and standard and trick. It's easy, but not cheap, to find almost everything you need to rebuild one. Rot free tanks used to be the Holy Grail, but not anymore with the excellent pattern tanks. Even good copy looms can be had now - another difficult part to find unmolested in the past. A mate down the road rebuilt a Gt250m last year - had all sports of hassle trying to find parts for it. Not as popular as an Lc so that's probably why. Building any old 2 stroke to a good standard will always be expensive, and I'm sure most Lc's could be built cheaper if guys were prepared to cut corners - just like we all did back in the day, but most are in a position now where a rotten tank gets replaced rather than repaired, so costs go up. Plus Yamaha don't do a vintage parts scheme which keeps genuine parts prices high, which is a shame. I never build mine to make money. It's my hobby and funded by the bike I sell prior to building the next. It's nice if you break even, it's nicer if you get some profit out of it, but I think most guys realise that thoughts of making a living out of buying and selling them is probably not gonna happen. The Lc hit the right spot at the right time in our lives. It's an iconic bike, and still wins polls even now, nearly 40 years later. This forum is proof of the following and love for them, and guys now, as they did back then, will modify, customise and generally "individualise" their bikes. I've done all sorts over the years, including big diesels like a 1000 Exup and a couple of slabbie Gixers, but the Lc's and Pv's and A/c 400's beat them all as far as I'm concerned Dusty
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Post by steve h on Apr 30, 2019 17:30:26 GMT 1
Holy carp! You've just finished it! Buy a whacking geet big jigsaw and when its finished, break it down and start rebuilding it.. will save you thousands.. Brown grips a plank seat (leather covered) will add 4k to it I'm sure... but you will have to cut off a shed load of bits off it and fit a fat front wheel as well.... (A costa card with a few quid on it would sweeten the deal)
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Post by veg on Apr 30, 2019 17:42:07 GMT 1
I will get it registered then up to Dave for new pipes then I will run it in and decide. I’m always chopping and changing stuff hence over 50 bikes in 33 yrs (licence at 16). I’m turning my diesel into a Paris Dakar tribute so that may feed the itch. I am a little concerned about the reliability and use ability of the tz top end if it proves a problem or unrideable I will sell the motor and the top end and replace it with something else . Matt/Steve do not say a word.
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Post by Yogi on Apr 30, 2019 17:44:22 GMT 1
I will get it registered then up to Dave for new pipes then I will run it in and decide. I’m always chopping and changing stuff hence over 50 bikes in 33 yrs (licence at 16). I’m turning my diesel into a Paris Dakar tribute so that may feed the itch. I am a little concerned about the reliability and use ability of the tz top end if it proves a problem or unrideable I will sell the motor and the top end and replace it with something else . Matt/Steve do not say a word. lol
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Post by steve h on Apr 30, 2019 17:51:21 GMT 1
3 years entertainment with the build.. I've worked with a few geezers that could of peed the same amount of cash up a wall in those 3 years.. with ease!
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Post by Yogi on Apr 30, 2019 18:10:13 GMT 1
3 years entertainment with the build.. I've worked with a few geezers that could of peed the same amount of cash up a wall in those 3 years.. with ease! Don’t be so hard on yourself Steve 😂🤪🤣
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Post by 17again on Apr 30, 2019 18:21:22 GMT 1
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Apr 30, 2019 18:27:11 GMT 1
I will get it registered then up to Dave for new pipes then I will run it in and decide. I’m always chopping and changing stuff hence over 50 bikes in 33 yrs (licence at 16). I’m turning my diesel into a Paris Dakar tribute so that may feed the itch. I am a little concerned about the reliability and use ability of the tz top end if it proves a problem or unrideable I will sell the motor and the top end and replace it with something else . Matt/Steve do not say a word. 🤫 Steve
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Apr 30, 2019 18:27:35 GMT 1
I will get it registered then up to Dave for new pipes then I will run it in and decide. I’m always chopping and changing stuff hence over 50 bikes in 33 yrs (licence at 16). I’m turning my diesel into a Paris Dakar tribute so that may feed the itch. I am a little concerned about the reliability and use ability of the tz top end if it proves a problem or unrideable I will sell the motor and the top end and replace it with something else . Matt/Steve do not say a word. 🤐 Steve
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Apr 30, 2019 18:28:28 GMT 1
I will get it registered then up to Dave for new pipes then I will run it in and decide. I’m always chopping and changing stuff hence over 50 bikes in 33 yrs (licence at 16). I’m turning my diesel into a Paris Dakar tribute so that may feed the itch. I am a little concerned about the reliability and use ability of the tz top end if it proves a problem or unrideable I will sell the motor and the top end and replace it with something else . Matt/Steve do not say a word. 🙊 Steve
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Apr 30, 2019 18:30:57 GMT 1
I will get it registered then up to Dave for new pipes then I will run it in and decide. I’m always chopping and changing stuff hence over 50 bikes in 33 yrs (licence at 16). I’m turning my diesel into a Paris Dakar tribute so that may feed the itch. I am a little concerned about the reliability and use ability of the tz top end if it proves a problem or unrideable I will sell the motor and the top end and replace it with something else . Matt/Steve do not say a word. No! Sorry! Struggling not to... .....you feckin what! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Knew all that subliminal voodoo sh1t Matt and I have been doing would work in the end ☻ Turncoat 😆😆😆 Steve
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Post by veg on Apr 30, 2019 18:38:05 GMT 1
If if if
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Post by reedpete on Apr 30, 2019 18:57:43 GMT 1
Yes...if !
Got my fingers crossed ( and a strong hunch) that pipes and maybe carburation will sort it.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Apr 30, 2019 19:01:08 GMT 1
You'll be fine
A bit of adrenaline riding it and you'll love it
Steve
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