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Post by philb714 on Apr 13, 2018 8:53:46 GMT 1
After 30+ years of owning/riding Jap bikes I bought my first Brit Bike from a friend who can no longer ride due to disability....
A few oil leaks...
A few damaged parts...
Metric bolts screwed into UNF / UNC threads, Halfords wiring crimps... Nice...
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Post by cb250g5 on Apr 13, 2018 11:21:04 GMT 1
Enjoy. I had a T140V for many years, toured all over Europe on it, including ragging it round Mallory and Dijon tracks. Always got me home.
You won't get it oil tight, but nearly is possible.
I'd suggest decent electronic ignition & a modern rectifier/regulator & it'll be reliable. I made my own loom from scratch, as the PO had butchered things somewhat.
I'd also consider a mikuni conversion, although you seemto have Mk1 Amals on there, I thought the "E" without the traditional splayed heads were always MK2s, which are nasty carbs.
I hope you're going to put Norton peashooters on it.
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Post by philb714 on Apr 13, 2018 12:12:40 GMT 1
Its got a single carb conversion (HIF6 SU carb fitted) with a Boyer ignition also fitted.... The wiring will need looking at as its been 'looked at/repaired' by the PO, and I'm researching on a modern Regulator/Rectifier to do away with the Zenor Diode & that black 3 plated rectifier thing hiding by the battery. And it looks like it will topple over on the sidestand at any moment..
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Post by cb250g5 on Apr 13, 2018 12:39:20 GMT 1
The Boyer is good. You can get the magnets refreshed by Boyer if they lose their magnetism over the years - the test is that they should be strong enough to hang the whole rotor from a spanner - mine went a bit light after a few years, but was fine again afterwards.
I think yours may be 3-phase, so a Boyer powerbox or similar will do the trick. Mine was a single phase alternator, so a simpler one did the trick.
the sidestand is odd, is something bent?
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Post by oldbritguy on Apr 14, 2018 22:56:46 GMT 1
Nice one. A man after my own heart. You will have a lot of fun on the bonnie. they go great, handle nice and like the back roads. That one you have should be reliable enough with the boyer and SU conversion. Nice Morris alloys as well. Like a 2T, keep an eye on the oil if it is leaking out (they all do to some extent) Also remember to check if it is + or - earth before you change the charging system. Dont want to burn anything electronic out. TMS in Nottingham are first class for parts. Enjoy
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Post by bezzer on Apr 15, 2018 8:21:30 GMT 1
After 30+ years of owning/riding Jap bikes I bought my first Brit Bike from a friend who can no longer ride due to disability....
A few oil leaks...
A few damaged parts...
Metric bolts screwed into UNF / UNC threads, Halfords wiring crimps... Nice...
That’s lovely Phil, My mates brother had a T140D US custom styled ‘Bonnie, a bike I always admired. Sadly the way Brit prices are climbing, I don’t think it’ll be a dream fulfilled anytime soon!. Hope you enjoy the recommissioning bud 😊👍🏻
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Post by veg on Apr 15, 2018 8:55:47 GMT 1
Lovely looking bike, I do love an original bonnie, had a t120 and I grew up with my old man riding Bonnies first bike I ever went pillion on, my older brother still owns the bike as my dad gave it to him been in the same family for 40 years
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Post by webbo on Apr 22, 2018 14:05:31 GMT 1
Looks like a nice project Phil. I bought a right minger a couple of years ago and still have it as a rolling project. I'm yet to do the rect/reg conversion and still on points so will fit electronic ignition this summer. How's your rear master cylinder? Pic of mine at the mo. Was a very rough std US model with a massive cissy bar!
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Post by lolly on Apr 25, 2018 12:30:16 GMT 1
went in to fowlers on the weekend ; Triumph are making some good looking bikes ; I do like the bobber .
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Post by mikelc on Apr 25, 2018 19:08:17 GMT 1
Bought and restored a T140V a few years ago great bike but back to 2 strokes now!
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Post by JOHN-DYNOSTAR on Apr 26, 2018 19:40:24 GMT 1
I owned a one year old bonnie a T140V back in the day, christ I sound old. would I have another . never ! the CB900 I bought after it secondhand for £300 was a revelation. I didn't have to take 10lb of spanners everywhere I went. I did not have to hire a van to go and pick the bike up. I did not have to get a bus or a train home from various parts of the country. we broke down once outside weston supermare hospital travelling from yorkshire after the lights failed on the M5 and we hit some pit props on the hard shoulder so took the next slip road off .the bike finally cut out due to prince of darkness charging issues. a passing motorcyclist stopped and asked if he could help . I explained after a moments thought he said " maybe this will help " and passed me a leaflet I gleefully opened it thinking that it was a local breakdown cum bike shop. rushed to the nearest lampost to read it It was a copy of the watchtower ! when I looked up he had gone
The honda we just put fuel and oil in it and rode it .
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Post by philmill on Apr 26, 2018 21:08:01 GMT 1
I've got a US spec T140D, I pulled it apart to do it up three years ago, I'm still putting it back together.... it trys my patience, just doesn't make sense the way most of it is put together I'll get it finished one day! Phil
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Post by webbo on Apr 29, 2018 19:42:22 GMT 1
I've got a US spec T140D, I pulled it apart to do it up three years ago, I'm still putting it back together.... it trys my patience, just doesn't make sense the way most of it is put together I'll get it finished one day! Phil I was speaking to a Triumph parts guy as I needed to replace the rear master cylinder and needed some tips as it seemed impossible to replace. He reconed Triumph started with the master cylinder and built the bike around it! Love the bike though, as an occasional rider 😄
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Post by philmill on Apr 29, 2018 20:15:19 GMT 1
That sounds about right, I was lucky that I put the Master Cylinder on early in the rebuild, I am looking forward to riding it, once I get it finished.. i thought Triumph parts were cheap, but I got that wrong!
Phil
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Post by philb714 on Jan 16, 2019 13:07:33 GMT 1
Not been on here for awhile as I've been stuck in the garage trying to sort this feckin' Bonnie out...
The crank big ends were worn and had to be reground, new main bearings, conrods,new cams, cam followers, camshaft bearings, new pistons and a 0.020" rebore on new barrels, new valve guides & valves, new oil pump, new clutch basket & clutch parts & plenty of new gearbox cogs....Looked like the previous owners never used the clutch and just stomped their way through the gears...
Binned the Zenor Diode, rectifier and all the shite electrical connectors for Jap electrickery.
What the feck was I thinking buying this bike... should of stayed with Jap bikes... its not on the road yet as I'm waiting on more parts funnily enough.
Morale of the story here is: Never buy a bike off a 'mate' who has only got less than a half a pin heads clue on spannering...
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Post by philmill on Jan 16, 2019 15:17:05 GMT 1
I feel your pain, god the Triumph made my brain hurt! nothing seems logical, and most of it is built really badly!
Phil
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Post by webbo on Jan 16, 2019 19:36:17 GMT 1
I finally got round to changing all my electrical system to jap stuff. Fired up a treat but was smoking like an LC so just had a rebore, new valves and guides. It’s easier getting bits for these old things than a lot of jap stuff. Stick with it, it’s looking very tidy so far from what I can see. You keeping it standard looking? Cheers Webbo
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 9:20:07 GMT 1
Mate, I had an OIF like yours. After i put in all new electics it was a joy. Everything worked all the time. BUT I sold it. Tonnes of compression. Got to the stage with my frail old knees i was waiting to hurt myself kicking it over. mine was only a 650.
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Post by philb714 on Mar 6, 2019 22:02:00 GMT 1
Got the engine back together now and just waiting on a map filter to arrive from the States so I can start her up... Fitted a billet clutch plate (and a 7 plate clutch conversion), new clutch basket, cush drive center... Fitted the head, had to buy a new exhaust Rocker Box as the original one had been grollied down so hard (by the PO) it had cracked. Spent a feckin' fortune on getting the engine sorted and fixing the bodges that the previous owners had done...
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Post by philb714 on Mar 6, 2019 22:09:43 GMT 1
Fitted the SU carb as a trial... Moulded a petrol resistant 10mm block at work and laser cut it to an approximate size. Guy at work lasered his (& mine) name on it just 'cos he could.... why? who feckin' knows but he was happy so.. Had to trim the intake with a sharp scalpel & silicone grease as the laser don't cut bendy lines... Carb finally fitted Fuel pipes & filters added.
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Post by philb714 on Mar 6, 2019 22:11:56 GMT 1
Bollox to doing a Brit bike again...
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Post by philmill on Mar 6, 2019 22:17:25 GMT 1
I agree 1000%... Looks nice sat in the garage though.
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Post by philb714 on Mar 6, 2019 22:24:50 GMT 1
I finally got round to changing all my electrical system to jap stuff. Fired up a treat but was smoking like an LC so just had a rebore, new valves and guides. It’s easier getting bits for these old things than a lot of jap stuff. Stick with it, it’s looking very tidy so far from what I can see. You keeping it standard looking? Cheers Webbo Keeping it standard looking for now... obviously the engine been sorted now with CNC rods, roller bearings on both sides of the crank, 7 plate clutch conversion and the addition of two oil filters (one in the frame and a T160 type fitted at the back of the gearbox). Hopefully the SU Carb conversion will work out okay or I'll be looking at a different head, carbs, airboxes etc etc... A lot of the spares out there is utter shite whether its made in the UK from 'respected suppliers' or off FleaBay... I've just bought a rocker oil feed pipe and its made of copper pipe coated in thin nickel(?)/zinc plating which when you bend the fecking thing to fit it you can hear the plating cracking... then the rocker shafts wouldn't go through the banjo's... in the f**kin bin it went!! No such trouble with the bits from Norbo for the LC!!!!
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Post by philb714 on Mar 6, 2019 22:34:02 GMT 1
I noticed rust worm under the paint on a brand new headlight ear I bought from LF Harris... so I dipped it in some thinners for 15 minutes to strip the paint off... No primer just a thin layer of black paint... Corrosion all over the thing. Harris answer? 'We powdercoat all our ears'... bollox! I beadblasted, etch primed & sprayed it in 2 pack myself.
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Post by philb714 on Mar 6, 2019 22:37:55 GMT 1
Got me going now!! New Pushrods... f**kin t**ts didn't even clean the swarf off them after fitting the ends... just f**kin laziness... British workmanship?... Bollox!... buy Jap!! This swarf was cleaned off one pushrod.
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Post by webbo on Mar 17, 2019 17:09:05 GMT 1
HA Ha! Stick with it phil, Just finished mine, I think! You think you're done then something else breaks or goes wrong. All part of the fun of owning an old brit bike.
Love mine, sounds amazing and got loads of character but really is a sunday afternoon bike for me. Cheers Webbo.
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