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Post by kostas on Feb 8, 2016 19:16:34 GMT 1
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Post by yamman1066 on Feb 8, 2016 19:43:14 GMT 1
looks ok
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Post by jon on Feb 8, 2016 19:45:57 GMT 1
Overall it looks like a nice tidy bike, and all there so a good 'project'.
If your looking for bad points I'd say they fall into different categories.
It's obviously not a standard bike, but some modifications have been made in my opinion before others. For instance standard pipes but with cone filters? I'd much rather a standard air box and expansions.
Not sure at all on the indicators, but purely down to choice. Again master cylinder looks YPVS to me, but will work just the same.
Things to niggle away at the price if it's high would be the total lack of redline, and the engine cut out inlay black/missing.
Of concern though and to check out would be why the stand is on a block of wood. Is the stand or brackets worn or twisted?
Purely out of interest I have not seen the frame lugs just below the radiator. Is this for some kind of belly pan?
Jon
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Post by ellasae on Feb 8, 2016 19:45:58 GMT 1
I assume this is in Greece Kostas ?
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Post by oldelsieboy on Feb 8, 2016 20:04:30 GMT 1
Not bad but a few "wrong" parts. F2 forks, brakes, mudguard YPVS inlet rubbers Cone filters YPVS front master cylinder Running pre-mix (is the oil pump fitted) LC2 exhausts Rear mudguard looks odd, is it fitted correctly. Pattern rear footpegs
OEB
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Post by will27 on Feb 8, 2016 20:10:43 GMT 1
Get him to include expansion pipes in sale he must have some with that set up , looks like he just put some standard pipes on to sell
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Post by steeley on Feb 8, 2016 20:32:30 GMT 1
oh and have you seen the tide mark right at the top of the forks. are ypvs forks /stanchions longer than lc ones you can see they are up through the top yolk already. If he still has the air box have that also.
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Post by muttsnuts on Feb 8, 2016 20:32:57 GMT 1
just check those barrels, they look suspiciously like 250 ones and not 350 ones, hard to see even on the photo's blown up, so I'd be checking the castings on the side and cc at the bottom of the barrels
and no markings or anything on the switch gear, plus of course everything that has been pointed out already !
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Post by kostas on Feb 8, 2016 20:54:33 GMT 1
Wow!
That's a lot for a "tidy" bike. OEB how do you know the pipes are from an LC2? Should the top of the engine be painted black as Jon says?
Asking price 2700 Euro
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Post by kostas on Feb 8, 2016 21:01:39 GMT 1
Do the F2 forks fit straight into the LC yokes? Or he had those replaced/modified to fit? Is the headlight original??
Thanks
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Post by oldelsieboy on Feb 8, 2016 21:16:29 GMT 1
Wow! That's a lot for a "tidy" bike. OEB how do you know the pipes are from an LC2? Should the top of the engine be painted black as Jon says? Asking price 2700 Euro Do the F2 forks fit straight into the LC yokes? Or he had those replaced/modified to fit? Is the headlight original?? Thanks Bottom yoke could be off any YPVS, top yoke will be LC2 Headlight looks original. Standard LC exhausts do not "straighten" at the end cone.
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Post by jon on Feb 8, 2016 22:33:25 GMT 1
This is actually a great way if 'looking' at a bike by asking others to chip in too.
Photos are not really detailed enough to see everything. As muttsnuts said I can see exactly what he means by the barrels maybe being 250, as at certain magnifications you can convince yourself the barrels have 4L1 on the inlets. Still seeing it in the flesh will confirm this and all the other points mentioned.
Another easy fix (but essential) is to ensure it has a split pin (or r clip) throught the front spindle. Can't see it in the photos.
Makes you wonder really, as none of us can see anything but cosmetics. Scary, for all we know it could be seized/blown up.
That's why it really has to be viewed to determine if it's worth the asking price.
Jon
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Post by tout on Feb 8, 2016 22:35:56 GMT 1
Connect the petrol pipes and see if it runs
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Post by jon on Feb 8, 2016 22:54:17 GMT 1
Kostas, be sure to tell us all what it's like when you see it on Wednesday, as I'm sure we will all like to see what we've missed.
In all honesty though it could turn out to be a nice bike despite all the observations.
Not sure what €2700 means on the home market, but I'd say it's definately worth that in England.
Jon
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Post by alistair64 on Feb 9, 2016 0:29:28 GMT 1
2 grand (in English money) sounds like a bargain to me, despite all the aforementioned comments. It seems to me that you're all being anoraks about how 'standard' it is, but considering the price I would say go for it.
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Post by JonW on Feb 9, 2016 1:04:58 GMT 1
Also not sure if its been mnetioned, tho I dont think so, the seat foam has been cut down.
I think its a great basis for a resto, not too many parts to find or PO work to undo there.
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Post by stusco on Feb 9, 2016 8:21:14 GMT 1
This is actually a great way if 'looking' at a bike by asking others to chip in too. Photos are not really detailed enough to see everything. As muttsnuts said I can see exactly what he means by the barrels maybe being 250, as at certain magnifications you can convince yourself the barrels have 4L1 on the inlets. Still seeing it in the flesh will confirm this and all the other points mentioned. Another easy fix (but essential) is to ensure it has a split pin (or r clip) throught the front spindle. Can't see it in the photos. Makes you wonder really, as none of us can see anything but cosmetics. Scary, for all we know it could be seized/blown up. That's why it really has to be viewed to determine if it's worth the asking price. Jon One of the fuel pipes is missing so it's not going anywhere
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Post by zedixe13 on Feb 9, 2016 9:48:36 GMT 1
Premix ( no oil pump and reservoir ? ) , F2 master and brakes, F2 forks look pitted at the top , F2 center stand ( too short ) , F1 tank cap , rewelded side stand bracket , painted rad cover and brake pedal , missing air box , mirrors and horn cover , no side and tail reflectors , non original seat cover and cut down foam , n.o. flashers and handlebar , cheap repro passenger footrests , welded brackets for belly , F2 intake manifolds with cross over tube , flattened right hand pipes at the end ( under ) they look like 31k , 31k rear fender , 4L1 on the cylinders , gas tap is not connected on one side and mucho non original bolts everywhere . A nice 750 pounds bike in Canada .
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Post by Norbo on Feb 9, 2016 10:44:49 GMT 1
Looks like a nice bike to me
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Post by kostas on Feb 9, 2016 16:20:05 GMT 1
It does say 4L1 on the cylinders.. So it is a 250LC engine most likely? Could he have those bored out to 350?
It turns out to be far away from original and 2700 euro is a lot of money for a bike like this in Greece. I would happily turn this to a hybrid if I could get it for 1500.
Thanks
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Post by oldelsieboy on Feb 9, 2016 16:30:12 GMT 1
It does say 4L1 on the cylinders.. So it is a 250LC engine most likely? Could he have those bored out to 350? It turns out to be far away from original and 2700 euro is a lot of money for a bike like this in Greece. I would happily turn this to a hybrid if I could get it for 1500. Thanks 4L1 barrels cannot be bored out to 347cc, the barrels are shorter, but they can be relined to acheive 370cc OEB
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Post by muttsnuts on Feb 9, 2016 18:28:13 GMT 1
4L1 barrels - maybe my eyesight isn't as bad as I thought !
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Post by kostas on Feb 9, 2016 19:51:50 GMT 1
4L1 barrels - maybe my eyesight isn't as bad as I thought ! Cheers Mutts, You have spotted its biggest disadvantage first! Will not bother doing the trip to see it, as it will cost me 100 euro in petrol and tolls for nothing. Kostas
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Post by muttsnuts on Feb 9, 2016 20:04:29 GMT 1
4L1 barrels - maybe my eyesight isn't as bad as I thought ! Cheers Mutts, You have spotted its biggest disadvantage first! Will not bother doing the trip to see it, as it will cost me 100 euro in petrol and tolls for nothing. Kostas ooo, do I get a prize ?
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Feb 9, 2016 20:27:45 GMT 1
mutts should be in forensics!
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Post by kostas on Feb 9, 2016 21:45:56 GMT 1
WTF yesterday I was excited to go and get this bike and today I don't even want to call this guy.
How I have to keep looking for the right one.. mutts no price for this, sorry!
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Post by unrealedd on Feb 9, 2016 22:44:52 GMT 1
Kostas it still looks like it could be a worthwhile buy, and you have ammunition to knock the price down.
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Post by muttsnuts on Feb 10, 2016 21:51:49 GMT 1
yeah at the right price its still a good buy, but it needs to be the right price
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Post by Yogi on Feb 10, 2016 21:54:41 GMT 1
If that was £2k here it would sell instantly
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Post by kostas on Feb 10, 2016 23:10:39 GMT 1
No way to get it for the right price. Not from someone that advertises it for a 350LC on which the engine has never been touched..
I can't negotiate the price with someone like him... Maybe someone with lots of money or less knowledge comes along and gets it.
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