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Post by dusty350 on Jul 16, 2014 22:10:57 GMT 1
Hi Swingarm is now in, along with the bottom shock linkage;  I got some M10 fine pitch bolts and fitted the footrests, and Norbo provided a stainless brake pedal spring and top yoke bearing cover;  I am waiting on the shock spring getting powdecoated, then I can refit the shock. I ideally want flat Renthal bars but have fitted the bars that came with the Tzr originally. Next job is to rub down and spray the front mudguard, and I want to get the tyres removed and wheel bearings out so I can drop them off to Microblast. More soon Dusty  |
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Post by Iain on Jul 18, 2014 16:52:53 GMT 1
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Post by dusty350 on Jul 18, 2014 21:35:02 GMT 1
Hi Wheels bearings are out, and my local tyre place removed the tyres for me, and the wheels are now at Microblast. Going with gloss white as the bike will be red and white Tz style. I've now rebuilt the shock - looks a bit better than when I got it !;   Dusty |
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Post by ojay on Jul 18, 2014 22:44:23 GMT 1
Looks awesome dusty !
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Post by dusty350 on Jul 31, 2014 16:49:59 GMT 1
Hi, Couple more parts sorted. I sanded down and resprayed the front guard which came up nice;  I took the wheels to Microblast in Windsor and they powder coated them gloss white, and I'm really pleased with the finish;  Just got to save up for new tyres and bearings now. Trying to find the right tyres - front had a 120/70/17 Bridgestone fitted and the rear was a 150/60/17 Dunlop ! Need to do a bit of research I think. I also bought a universal tail tidy off ebay which will save me messing about ;  Also cleaned up the brake discs and resprayed the carrier on the front disc as well as respraying the speedo drive housing which was stripped of its workings as I have a digi Acewell to fit. Regards Dusty |
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Post by dusty350 on Jul 31, 2014 16:50:09 GMT 1
Hi, Couple more parts sorted. I sanded down and resprayed the front guard which came up nice; I took the wheels to Microblast in Windsor and they powder coated them gloss white, and I'm really pleased with the finish; Just got to save up for new tyres and bearings now. Trying to find the right tyres - front had a 120/70/17 Bridgestone fitted and the rear was a 150/60/17 Dunlop ! Need to do a bit of research I think. I also bought a universal tail tidy off ebay which will save me messing about ; Also cleaned up the brake discs and resprayed the carrier on the front disc as well as respraying the speedo drive housing which was stripped of its workings as I have a digi Acewell to fit. Regards Dusty |
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Post by jon on Jul 31, 2014 19:33:13 GMT 1
Have you thought how you are going to clean the disk mounting surfaces back to bare metal on the wheels after they have been powder coated?
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Post by dusty350 on Jul 31, 2014 20:02:17 GMT 1
Hi, I've got a dremmel for that Dusty |
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Post by phil1966 on Jul 31, 2014 21:14:11 GMT 1
Dam it that front end looks deadly...keep up the good work,keep posting please mate...ideas i need.
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Post by sparkyrd350 on Aug 3, 2014 20:04:04 GMT 1
Looking good
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Post by jon on Aug 4, 2014 22:56:03 GMT 1
Dusty, I really don't advise the Dremel to clean up the disk mounting surfaces (which is sort of why I asked the question).
You only have to take off fractionally too much, and the disk will not run true.
I used a small artist brush, paint stripper and a toothbrush on my old YPVS wheels.
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Post by dusty350 on Aug 5, 2014 7:15:00 GMT 1
Hi Jon, In the end I didn't have to use the dremmel, the discs bolted straight on and sit flush against the wheel. I have checked for run out and it is fine, so that saved me some work. Front tyre goes on tomorrow, then wheel bearings and the front end can get a bit nearer being finished. I've gone back to a standard size tyre - 110/70/17 as it had a 120 fitted. The rear will be a 140/70/17 as opposed to the 150/60 fitted, which will help give the chain a touch more clearance, although that will be next month ! Once the front wheel is back in, I will need to fab a bracket for the speedo pick up so it can pick up the magnet on the front disc. This years target is to get a fully functioning rolling chassis so I can then move it into the garage before winter. Regards Dusty |
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Post by greasemeup on Aug 5, 2014 7:44:31 GMT 1
Beware, paint / powder coat compresses over time, you could find your brake discs loose at some point soon after riding it. Recheck / torque bolts after first ride!!!
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Post by dusty350 on Aug 5, 2014 18:29:48 GMT 1
Hi, Yep, good advice. I always check everything after the first shakedown rides, especially disc/sprocket/caliper fixings. Regards Dusty |
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Post by dusty350 on Aug 10, 2014 19:43:13 GMT 1
Hi, Got the front wheel in today. It's had new bearings and a tyre, plus 2 new oil seals as it was originally missing them. I repainted the speedo drive and disc carrier, after giving the disc a refurb. I'm pleased with how it looks;  I spent some time cleaning up the caliper. Luckily the pistons move freely, they look new, and means the caliper wont need a rebuild. After a good clean, I just went over it with a fine wire brush;  The bracket that held the fluid pot was horrible, but I had something a bit better in my spares box;  The lever is off for polishing and I just need to clean the fluid pot, then bleed new fluid through the system as the old stuff is pretty manky. The other thing I am changing is the bracket I bought for the Acewell gauge. I think it's a bit too bulky;  I have a spare Renthal cross brace bracket that I will polish up and use instead as it is much smaller and neater. Next will be the rear wheel and then I will have a rolling chassis, which is my target for this year;  Dusty |
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Post by fozzy17 on Aug 10, 2014 20:50:20 GMT 1
Dusty loving it, the rear swing arm stock or tzr?
what wheels you running are they 4DP
the 4DP front end easier enough to fit?
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Post by dusty350 on Aug 10, 2014 21:09:42 GMT 1
Hi Standard F2 Ypvs swingarm with the Ypvs caliper mount removed so the Tzr125 Belgarda rear wheel and caliper carrier would fit, Front end is all 4dl Belgarda too, with Lc taper bearings and a 5mm spacer at the bottom, quite an easy conversion really, and the parts are still affordable on ebay Dusty |
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Post by fozzy17 on Aug 12, 2014 18:01:27 GMT 1
are the brakes upto it being a single??
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Post by dusty350 on Aug 12, 2014 18:36:32 GMT 1
Hi The Brembo up front is a 4 piston caliper on a 320mm floating disc. The rear is a twin piston Brembo. I have no doubt they are equal to, if not miles better than the original calipers. Plus the bike will be a lot lighter than standard. The Tzr250 2ma had virtually the same set up as standard. I used this as I removed it from the Tzr/ypvs project bike I had originally, and although I think twin disc set up's look better balanced, I think the braking from this single disc will be fine. Regards Dusty |
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Post by dusty350 on Aug 15, 2014 16:01:12 GMT 1
Hi, Couple of small jobs done this week. I stripped and polished the Renthal cross brace bracket and bolted that on to act as a mount for the Acewell - a lot smaller and neater than the other one I had fitted;  And with the Acewell fitted;    Also got the clear coating off the brake lever and polished that up;  Running out of parts to refurb for the rolling chassis now, as most are on the bench waiting for the rear tyre to be fitted. May have a closer look at the custom loom that was on the Tzr project bike to see how easily it would work on this one. More soon. Dusty |
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Post by jon on Aug 16, 2014 8:14:43 GMT 1
I'm sure some clever clogs could do the maths on the breaking forces of a standard 1WT compared to the 4DL? As you say though it is basiically the same setup size wise as the 2MA. You'd hope Yamaha San has employed a few clever clogs for that setup to handle around 50HP.
I've got virtually the same setup (except blue spot caliper) on my TZR hybrid LC. The brakes are fine for the amount I push the bike. They do seem quite progressive, but I wonder if I should be using a 1/2 master cylinder rather than the 3/8?
When getting used to the feel at 40MPH, you could make the back wheel skip during stopping without too much effort at all. I didn't want to test it fully for fear of the forces on the relatively weak frame design/material, an my own riding abilities.
Strange as a youngster (with no fear) I remember doing the same test on the same bit of road on a YPVS, and trying to do the biggest stoppie I could.
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Post by dusty350 on Aug 16, 2014 10:40:32 GMT 1
Hi We are all older and wiser (most of the time !) nowadays, and hopefully more careful than we used to be when it comes to testing new builds. I had a Tzr 1kt with a Ypvs engine in it a few years back - standard chassis and brakes, and it stopped really well. I always thought that the single disc up front was more than capable for the bike. I prefer the balanced look of twin discs, but this is what I had from the Ugly Betty bike, so I couldn't warrant buying something else purely for the looks of twin discs. This was meant to be a "throw all the parts you've got in the shed together" build, but as always it's beginning to run away from me ! I've ended up buying a new frame, Ypvs swingarm, linkages and shock, tyres, wheel bearings and seals, Acewell dash and assorted other parts, and then the welding and powdercoating ! I'm a sucker for theses bikes though and love doing it so accept there will be a lot more expenditure to come Regards Dusty |
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Post by dusty350 on Aug 19, 2014 16:44:34 GMT 1
Hi, Early birthday present today;  Got my 140/70/17 Bt45 fitted, New bearings in the wheel and hub and in it went;   Everything is lining up nicely. Also offered up the universal tail tidy;  An old plate fitted to see how it looked. Next on the shopping list is the shorter dog bones but that will be next month. Then I can move it around the shed more easily, mount the tail tidy and get the seat fixed properly. Cheers Dusty |
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Post by Yogi on Aug 19, 2014 18:50:50 GMT 1
:)Coming along nicely
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Post by rostrumorhospital on Aug 19, 2014 22:33:43 GMT 1
great attention to detail, really like how its coming together, well done
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Post by ojay on Aug 20, 2014 10:06:55 GMT 1
Nice one Dusty it really is a beauty. Can't wait to see the pics of it finished. :-) OJAY
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Post by dusty350 on Aug 24, 2014 19:37:30 GMT 1
Cheers fella's, I've cleaned up the rear caliper and temporarily bolted it on;  Saving up for some shorter dog bones next and then I can move it around a bit easier. Dusty |
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Post by yamark on Aug 24, 2014 20:21:47 GMT 1
What a fantastic quality of build. Can you speed up a bit Dusty coz I can't wait to see the finished bike. Your workshop looks like a surgeon could operate in there, my workshop looks like I've tidied up with a hand grenade! Super build and great attention to detail
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Post by dusty350 on Aug 24, 2014 20:45:10 GMT 1
Cheers Mark, I am keen to be able to move the bike up into the garage for the winter as it's in the shed at the bottom of the garden at the moment, and although I have light and power down there, it's not great in the winter ! Once I have the dog bones, it will move. The shed isn't always that tidy though, I gave it a clean up just the other day ! I have toyed with the idea of robbing the Yamasaki of it's engine and pipes to bolt onto this one, but have resisted - so far !. Dusty |
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Post by dusty350 on Sept 17, 2014 16:57:41 GMT 1
Hi all, Well, the Ypvs/Tzr hybrid saw the light of day today for the first time !;   Nigel at NK Racing made me up some shorter dog bones, and they arrived this morning, so on they went and that meant the bike could be wheeled outside for the first time. I also got some straight Renthals to replace the others that were on the bike as I think the straights look better. Here's one with the tank and seat on;  Next will be the tail tidy/numberplate bracket as I can now centralise it under the seat. Really like the look of this one and I am seriously considering robbing parts off the Yamasaki to move tis on more quickly. Watch this space !! Dusty |
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